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aL)solUtely uflspc~k.abic atrocitics that occu~~cd ~(i K~i'~ait i(~ ti)--. l~st ~e.ek.  ?iey r~
not a part of t)~e same hwnan race.,  the people that did tt,at, ttat t1)C rest of U        are.
I've got to pray that that's the case.

      Q:   Can you tell us more about that?
      A:   No sir, I wouldn't want to talk about it.

      Q:   Could you give us some Indication of what's happening to the forces left in
Kuwait?   What kind of forces are they, and are they engaged at the moment?
      A:   You ntean these Up here?

      Q:   The ones in Kuwait, the three symbols to the right.
      A:   X'm not even sure they're here.     1 think they're probably gone.         We picked
up a lot of signals with people, there S a road that goes right out here and goes out
that way, and I think they probably, more than likely, are gone.     So what you're
really faced with is you're ending up fighting the Republican Guard heajvy mech and
armor units that are there.   Basically what we want to do is capture their equipment.

      Q:   They're all out of Kuwait then?
      A:   I can't say that,  I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if there are not
pockets of people all ~round here who are just waiting to surrender as soon as
somebody Uncovers them and comes to- them~ but wQ' re certainly not getting any
internal fighting going on acr6ss our lines of communicatibn or any of that Sort of
thing.

      ~:   General, not to take anything away from the Army and the Marines on the
breachin9 maneuvers...
      A:   I hope you don't.

      ~:   But many of the reports from the pools we've gotten from your field
corru~anders and the soldiers were indicating that these fortifications were not as
intense or as sophisticated as they were led to believe.    Is this a result of the
pounding that they took that you described earljer, or were they perhaps overrated in
the first place?
      A:   I{ave you ever been in a minefield?

      Q:   No.
      A:   All there's got to be is one mine, and that's intense.    There were plenty
of mines out there, plenty of barbed ~ire.     There were fire trenches.7 most of which
we set off ahead of time.   But there were still son'  that were out there,  the
Egyptian forces had to go through fire trenches.     ?here were a lot of booby traps,         a
lot of barbed `ire -- not a fun place to he.     I've got to tell you probably one of
the toughest things that anyone ever has to do is to go up there and walk into
something like that and 90 through it,    and consider that while you're going through
it and cleating it, at the same time you're probably under fire by enemy artillery.
That's all I can say.

      Q:   ~as it less severe than you had expected?   You were expecting even worse,
in other ~ords.
      A:   It was less severe than we e>:pected, but one of the things I contribute
that to is the fact that we went to extensive measures to try and make it less
          ~? really ~id.  I didn't mean to be facetious with my answer~ but Y'"e 5~st
got to tell you t~~at that wd5 a very tough n'iss~on for any person to do,  particularly
in <~ minefje)d.

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