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Subject: NAVGRAM LESSONS LEARNED F H F 1 JAN 91 TO 31 JAN 91
Unit: FLEET HOSP
Parent Organization: NAVCENTCOM
Box ID: BX300052
Folder Title: FLEET HOSPITAL WORKING PAPERS VARIOUS SOURCES CNA 2837
Document Number: 58
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UNCLASSIFIED
D. RECOMMENDED ACTION:
(1) THE RECOMMENDED C HOICES FOR A FIRE FIGHTING VEHICLE ARE
LISTED IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER OF PRIORITY:
(A) FIRST CHOICE - BOTH A CRASH TRUCK (AS MB-1) AND A
STRUCTURAL TRUCK AS WE NOW HAVE.
(8) SECOND CHOICE - AN ALL WHEEL DRIVE CRASH TRUCK WITH
A MIN. 500 GPM MONITOR, IOOOGAL WATER TANK, 100 GAL FOAM
TANK, AND STRUCTURAL FIRE FIGHTING CAPABILITIES TO
INCLUDE; TWO 1 1/2" PRE-CONNECT HAND LINES, FOUR 2 1/2"
DISCHARGE PORTS, A 4 1/2" INTAKE PORT, A 2 1/2" INTAKE
PORT, A 1" HOSE REEL, AND COMPARTMENTS FOR SCBA'S, HOSE
PACKS, TOOLS AND LADDER RACK.
(C) THIRD CHOICE - AN ALL WHEEL DRIVE STRUCTURAL TRUCK,
(AS WE NOW HAVE) WITH A PERMANENTLY FIXED 500 GPM
MONITOR (MINIMUM) WHICH COULD BE USED FOR CRASH FIRES.
(2) TANKERS - ALL TANKERS COME FACTORY EDUIPPED WITH BOTTOM
SIDE MANIFOLDS TO INCLUDE A 4 1/2" HARD SUCTION CONNECTION AND
CONNECTION FOR A P250 PUMP.
19. PROTECTIVE CLOTHING, FIRE FIGHTING.
A. OBSERVATION: MORE EFFECTIVE AND SUITABLE FIRE FIGHTING
PROTECTIVE CLOTHING IS NEEDED TO BECOME PART OF THE INVENTORY
PACKAGE FOR A FIELD HOSPITAL.
B. DISCUSSION: THE INITIAL INVENTORY AND PLANNING FOR THE
FIRE DEPARTMENT PROTECTIVE CLOTHING INCLUDED:
(1) EIGHT SETS OF FIRE FIGHTER "TURN OUT" CLOTHING INCLUDING
PANTS, HELMETS, GLOVES, COATS, AND BOOTS, BUT NO SUSPENDERS.
(2) ZERO SETS OF FIRE FIGHTER PROXIMITY SUITS
C. LESSONS LEARNED:
(1) PROXIMITY SUITS. THE MAIN PROBLEM WITH PROTECTIVE
INS WAS ORDERED. (PROXIMITY
SUITS ARE MADE WITH A REFLECTIVE ALUMINUM OUTER LAYER FOR RADIANT
HEAT ASSOCIATED WITH CRASH FIRE FIGHTING.) FOUR SETS WERE GIVEN
TO FLEET HOSPITAL 5 BY THE AL-JUBAIL PORT FIRE DEPT. THE TWO
HOSE MEN ON THE ENGINE WEAR PROXIMITY SUITS AS THERE IS NOT
ENOUGH FOR THE ENTIRE CREW SIZE WISE. IN THE EVENT OF A
STRUCTURAL FIRE OR DRILL THE HOSE MEN EXCHANGE THE PROXIMITY HOOD
FOR THE STRUCTURAL HELMET. THEY ALSO EXCHANGE THE PROXIMITY
GLOVES FOR THE MORE WORKABLE STRUCTURAL GLOVES. THIS SEEMS TO
WORK BETTER THAN FOR THEM TO CARRY TWO SETS OF TURN OUT GEAR EACH
ON THE TRUCK (STRUCTURAL AND PROXIMITY.)
(2) STRUCTURAL TURN OUT CLOTHING. THE FLEET HOSPITAL
RECEIVED EIGHT SETS OF YELLOW TURNOUT GEAR SIZES S - L. NO
SUSPENDERS WERE ORDERED AND ARE NEEDED. THE BRAND NAME ON THE
HELMETS ARE BELL AND SEEM TO BE INFERIOR TO THE CAIRNS HELMET.
THEY DO NOT INCLUDE MANY OF THE ADVANTAGES FOUND ON THE CAIRNS
HELMET. AS:
(A) EASILY ADJUSTABLE CHIN STRAP
(B) PUSH UP HEAD BAND TO ALLOW FOR THE TOP SIDE OF THE
BREATHING MASK
(C) SUSPENSION SYSTEM ON THE HELMET TO ALLOW FOR
IMPACT.) THUS THE BELL TYPE HELMET DOES CREATE PROBLEMS
WHEN WEARING SCBA'S.
UNCLASSIFIED
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