NUCLEAR BIOLOGICAL AND CHEMICAL DEFENSE SURVEY

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Subject: NUCLEAR BIOLOGICAL AND CHEMICAL DEFENSE SURVEY                  

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            packs to make sure they weren't contaminated.      If it would have
            rolled up into a decon site. I would like to see at least one per
            company. That way a co gunny could if had to, hey have they been
            hit he could actually id chem casualty he could test it at a
            company level before it actually comes back to us that way we could
            id if it was a chemical casuey or a regular       casuey.   It would
            reduce our time in a decon situation, could be a life threatening
            to a Marine or sailor. More you have the better off you are -- at
            least one.
            * They used the H2S protector. High risk, go right through some
            of the lines. Don't like that it takes too long to get a rding out
            of it if there was a more f aster mode where it is continuwous
            sucking in like the MS Alarm where it is countinuously sucking in
            will give you an instant read, that would really help us out. By
            the time you dump this thing and allow the          to come back out
            youve probably already moved 100 meters down the road, you could be
            already out of it anyway. Never received any rding what so ever
            when I thought maybe we had H2s, but I had a negative rding. But
            at least we had something. It would have been a good piece of gear
            if we had stayed at a defensive perimeter. Never long enough there
            to employ it like that.
               OG84 is good.     Good suit.    I believe in it bc Ive used it
            through the line it made me a firm believer in it. only bad thing
            in this operation too big and bulky for the Marines to get in and
            out of AMTHRAX. The way the trenches they heated up really fast.
            We didnt go into MOPP4 but we did a part in the breach MOPP2. We
cks the room they
            had did not have that much room for personal gear.        carried in
            pack, Marines wore their OG84 bc they lasted longer. It is a good
            pieced of gear but just a little too big and bulky for the
            infantry.
            *British suits, lightweight, good for packing.Almost perfect for
            packing put in their LS Pack or their BUD Pack. Problem that Ive
            seen after talking to some infantry individuals, they dislike it
            due to the fact that the (charcoal) liner irritated their skin its
            a little coarse.    Like the texture of our charcoal alot better.
            The thing I dislike about the      suit , for one the sizing is all
            wrong again. They kept givin4-us the smaller sizes where we need
            larger and putting a hood that interferes bc their hood is designed
            for their mask it is not designed for ours. We would have had to
            rolled it to keep contamination from filling up back there if they
            got hit.
            * Rubber booties even though they tie up properly. OF course I
            was riding in the tracks so I wasnt using as much physicla exertion
            as they did they had to run thorugh trenches, they felt like the
            booties were a burden to them. They kept coming undone they had to
            stop and tie them.     Booties have been a major problem for the
            inf antry anyway.   If we could come up with some other type of
            design that would stay tied or a better f it or some sort.        Have
            thrown up some recommendations using velcro or suing the wash type
            they would mch pref er that. I would f ind it a bigger burden f or a
            NBC guy actually having to use their golosh type bc we have another
            prob. We would have to size these guys and that would be anouther
            sizing prob like suits. and decon, it would be nice but its also

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Subject = NUCLEAR BIOLOGICAL AND CHEMICAL DEFENSE SURVEY
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Non-Health Related Document = 01-JAN-1980
Declassified = 04-NOV-1996